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Terra ([personal profile] penguinfaery) wrote2008-05-11 04:22 pm

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So I took mom out to the drive-in double feature for mothers day to see Iron man and SPeed Race.

Speed racer pwn Iron Man but both were REALLY good.

This movie is like the pinnacle of special effects. Everything visual was just SO incredibly amazing, I don't even know how to explain it.

They also TOTALLY got the manga thing. Like there is no other way you could have a live action manga as purely as that. Speedline, shoujo sparkles, punch burst, but they all flowed into this kaleidescope of colors so it didn't look silly. (Or...looked intentionally silly, I should say) This movie just DRIPPED fun and ridiculous and made you feel like a little kid. If you were looking for a dark, gritty realistic Speed Racer wtf is wrong with youyou won't get it.

The acting was generally pretty good. The parent were both awesome, Speed was acceptably hero like, and Christina Ricci was an awesome real life anime girl. Roger Allam (The Bill O'riley guy from V for Vendetta) was a kick ass bad guy. The only character that were wearing thin for me by the end were his little brother and the monkey. Cute Brats are....ehh.

The beginning scene involved a lot of switching between time periods that got quiet confusing by the end, and they should refined that some how. The plot is pretty cliched and expected but it's fun in the same way a melodrama is...sure you KNOW what's going to happen, but it's fun to watch anyway. It's not the most interesting plot in the world, but it's enough to make it worth going to see for something besides the visuals. I will admit however, with out them it's just be a fun kids movie...with them? Amazing.



Dear Marvel:

Get a new plot plz. When the hulk comes out, all three of your last movies will have the main plot of hero snubs villain in some way, villain gets revenged by becoming a second hand version of hero.

I know it's a common super hero plot line but there ARE othesr, obviously. Once was fine, twice I could probably forgive you, but three times? (And honestly, if it had been twice, the one without that plot should have been middle but....)

Terra.

Besides THAT big flaw, Iron man was pretty awesome. Sleek, and clean and funny. The special effects were incredible (That suit was just SEXY), the acting was really good (Jeff Bridge's wasn't the most intense, but he was still good), and Robert Downey Jr. was AWESOME. He made Tony Stark a LIKABLE asshole. Instead of...uhm...Tony Stark. *cough* I'm worried about some of the themes becoming dated as they were very like "Current events!" but they might survive just fine. Pepper was an amazing awesome character in the beginning and started to peter out towards the end, but it never crossed from "Capable girl is a situation over her head." to "incompetent bimbo". I wanted to strangle Leslie Bibb's character every time she was on screen.

The writing was funny as hell. I cracked shit up like every five minutes. And the plot had no big plot holes and was in general a good action/super hero movie. Nothing blew me away, but everything made me quiet happy, and nothing disppointed me.

Ok, I lie. The part after the credits blew me away. Cause...awesome? Yeah.

And the Batman preview made me an mom cry a lot. And Two face's line was awesome("You either day a hero or live long enough to see yourself as the villain."), so even if he does end up with the suck zombie!face he'll have good lines :3

[identity profile] dannydonovan.livejournal.com 2008-05-12 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno. Obidiah Stane wasn't really "snubbed" he was more of a Gordon Gecko from wall-street type of guy. He was annoyed that he was really just 'keeping the seat warm for the prince apparant' and then gets shoved back down to the #2 guy until Tony was old enough to take control of the company.

I'm really not seeing how he seemed snubbed? And with Hulk, the plot centers around Hulk already being at-large, and Emil Blonsky tries to create a 'hulk army' and tries it on himself first only to become the Abomonation, then goes on a murderous rampage that Hulk gets blamed for, until he's able to face off against Blonsky at the end.

Hulk will be fighting Iron Man in his movie too (I think) I know Robert Downey Jr. has a role in it, and I am TOLD the armor comes out, and Sam L. Jackson is there as Fury.

I hope it'll be good. I am not too pleased with the CGI they're doing on Hulk but I am hoping they'll pull it off just so the Avengers gets that much closer to being made. It's already announced for 2011.

[identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com 2008-05-12 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Even if *I* don't think he was snubbed, HE was upset/wronged in some way/shape/form by the hero. (the only one I'd say was snubbed in the most literate of terms was Eddie Brock, as he was the only one intentional one upped) but all of them were somehow, in their mind wronged by the hero. The bad guy from the hulk (His CGI looks better then the hulks) was, at least in the preview we saw, smacked hard by him, and so then was like "I want to get him back!" (I don't know the exact line, but it was along that when he was being injected) Even if it's not the MAIN plot, it's in there enough that I'm like "...guys. Srsly now."

Hulk vs Iron man would kick ass though. The hulk...I've never been a big Hulk girl, so even if they did it perfect I'd still kind be like "...ew!" cause the hulk is ew to me, but I thought the changing was kinda cool. But I do see what you mean.

[identity profile] dannydonovan.livejournal.com 2008-05-12 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
That's true. Although it's kind of the foundation you build on. The villian is always the opposite number of the hero. It's what makes it work. The Hero/Villian Hero/Anti-hero dychotomy is what you build the world/universe from.

Take Superman.. Superman is a person set to earth gaining powers beyond those of mortal men, being taught the right and moral way by his working class Kansas farming family he uses those powers to be a hero and save lives.

Then you have his opposite number Lex Luthor. ordinary person, perhaps slightly smarter than the average man, raised in a life of privledge and learns that power is all that matters and that if you are not a "winner" you are a loser. Becoming the most powerful man in Metropolis, Lex thinks he has it all, until Superman arrives and proves that no matter what Lex has he'll always just be mortal. He spends all of his time and genius chasing afer Superman because he represents something Lex cannot be, and thus Lex feels jealousy and needs to destroy it if he can't overcome it.

With Hulk, I admit I don't know much about the plot other than it's really just going to hit the ground running and just assume you know your Hulk story from the last movie (this isn't a sequel, just taking advantage of the fact everyone knows the hulks story by now)

I think they "I'll get him back" bit was not so much a "I'll get my revenge" but trying to get Bruce Banner back into Government custody. Because if you look at the trailer more, he's on the run from the feds and does have that scene on a military chopper where he kisses Liv Tyler goodbye and drops from the helicopter and turns into the hulk by the time he hits the ground.

I'll admit, Spider-man 3 DID go a little overboard with the Venom storybranch. But to be fair, Rami just shoe-horned it in because Avi Arad wanted him in the movie, and Rami never liked him.

To his credit though, he DID get the origin spot on from the book, just removing some of the Secret Wars stuff, (which would have be a move series unto itself to understand) and some of the more trippy/over the top violent McFarlene stuff.

I would like to see a Venom movie though. Played straight horror style.

I do hope the Iron Man vs Hulk bit has a good piece to it, I do fear it's going to be a throwaway thing though. Where Tony shows up, Hulk smacks him into next week, and then that's the end of that. :p

<3

[identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com 2008-05-12 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
I have no issue with the snubbing/wronging part (I like it to be personal a lot of time more then general) it's just that all three had the snubbing followed by the person becoming some kinda second hand version. And it's not so big a flaw that I haven't enjoyed 2 and will probably enjoy the third, it's just seems like the writer didn't get together and talk to each other or something.

He seemed very ANGRY "I'll get him back. But I know so little about the hulk I could be wrong. But even without that, all three have the hero and his enemy that is the opposite of him. And if it'd been like Spiderman, Iron Man, and Bizarro in Superman it wouldn't hit me because it's DC and Marvel, but it just seems like somewhere in there someone should be going "Oh hey guys, this is too similar, let's mix it up!"

I adore Venom (I am in the minority of having liked that movie a lot. Even though I do agree it was too much in one movie) But I loved every bit of him. I think he did it really well, I never would have guessed he didn't want it (Except for maybe the over stuffedness of it. But even so if I were to cut something, it'd be all the shit with harry)

Yeah probably about Iron man. Or he'll come in an aprehende him at the last minute when he's already about to collapse or something. Kinda like, as awesome as the bit at the end was I spent the whole movie going "WHERE IS MY MOTHERFUCKING SAMUEL L JACKSON!"

♥!!!!!!!!!!~

[identity profile] dannydonovan.livejournal.com 2008-05-12 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Rami never liked Venom at all. He had a vision of about 6 Spider-man movies each bringing in one or two characters from the silver age (when he first started reading) and then the sixth movie was going to be spider-man vs The Sinister Six.

You had Goblin in the first one, Doc Ock in the second, Sandman in #3. The rumor was that before Venom was added, he had wanted a cameo by The Vulture to parlay into Spider-man 4. And from Spider-man 1 he had been putting in Doctor Curt Connors to use the Lizard at some point.

But yeah, Blonsky was mad during that line because he was being blamed for Banner's escape. So his job/status was on the line. He was going to be the saccrficial lamb (from what I understood) if he couldn't retrieve banner before another "Hulk incident" occured.

Which is why I think Blonsky eventually uses the Hulk Serum on himself, instead of putting it through the clinical trials because he needed an edge to go against the Hulk.

They are keeping a pretty tight lid on details of the story so I'm looking forward to seeing what direction they go it. It seems like its going to be more around the military industral complex, but unlike the Ang Lee version you get the Hulk in the first 10 minutes and not have to wait like 17 hours of character bits before you see the Hulk.



[identity profile] blushingdolphin.livejournal.com 2008-05-12 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
suck zombie!face Made me want to draw zombies kissing.

[identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com 2008-05-12 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
That seems like it's end up very gross.

[identity profile] blushingdolphin.livejournal.com 2008-05-12 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, prob. Zombies have a tendency to fall apart. I didn't say I was actually going to XD

[identity profile] galenhiril.livejournal.com 2008-05-12 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think I could have said it better myself.

I was deeply fond of both movies actually. Speed Racer was just so fun. And I was pleased with the casting choice of Speed himself. And to be honest, I'm not usually fond of Christina Ricci, but I thought she was fantastic as Trixy =3

I've stolen her line "Was that a ninja?!" for my own, personal use. =3 lol

And Robert Downey Jr. was just amazing.