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penguinfaery) wrote2008-08-22 11:56 pm
penguinfaery) wrote2008-08-22 11:56 pm
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Dear you:
"This person I know intimately has the same opinion and you just insulted the shit outta them by devaluing their abuse and making them cry." is not the same as "saying my opinion is ok because someone I know went through this." She was there and woulda told you to your face, but was not friended on the post.
I didn't say you weren't right to be offended, and I never said it was for the "lulz". It's not a funny subject no matter how serious or not serious it is, though yeah, I crack jokes. One would hope you would know me well enough by now to know this. But I suppose they're only ok if they're bashing someone/something you dislike. But I apologize, obviously you are so fucking right, and anyone with another opinion is a worthless person. You're the one who said "You haven't been there, so you have no valid opinion." (Without, I might add, knowing whether I had in fact been there or not) So since the only people with valid opinion are those who have been there, Bev responded. As she has in fact been through BOTH variations of what I was talking about, in real life, not through the movies, and has seen both plenty of goreporn and plenty of shota. And, in fact, due to her job training, actual child porn (When you go though training at APS you see heavily blurred shit as part of their anti-child porn training. She was disturbed as fuck even with is so blurred)
You didn't choose to respond to the paragraph upon paragrah of well thought out response, no, you honed in on my opinion that glorified fictional goreporn is worse then glorified fictional childporn (Well, might I add, I was very clear that both were pretty damn horrid) and said since I'd never been abused of course I'd think that. Do I object to you thinking those are flipped? Not at all. We all draw our personal lines. I do object to being denied an opinion because I "haven't been there". And I do love how you ignore the person who HAS been there.
And real cool to delete someone overone spat about taste in twisted shita one line reference from a picnic face skit (I referenced uncle dan for our viewers at home). Real mature, but I guess it's really better in the end. If you can't handle having friends who disagree with you that people enjoying glorified snuff films is worse then people enjoying glorified rape pron somewhere on the internet you don't even need to have contact with it, yeah make jokes about serious things like everyone...forever tends to make (Really? Everyone I KNOW cracks jokes about serious shit, and a lot of them about serious shit THEY'VE gone through. People dying, rascism, child porn...I mean shit, look at all the jokes surrounding Pyramid head and rape. But I'm sure those are fine because they're not your trauma) Probably better that way. If you're easily trigger off by your traumatic experiences, ok, fair enough, they're traumatic for a reason, however *I* don't know them all, so uhm...maybe YOU should avoid conversation where you're REALLY likely to be triggered instead of expecting the world to cater to you. I know I don't seek out discussions on my triggers. Or don't get pissed when I enter into conversation about them and find them. What a child.
If you'd just, you know, said "Hey. That wasn't funny, I'm really not comfortable with this kinda stuff." I would have probably coddled the shit out of you and felt way guilty, and made sure that I never brought it up around you again because you're not comfortable with it. Instead you through fits and tossed away a friendship over it.
I have tons of friends who have been abused (meaning I know where to respect boundaries. You don't discuss drugs with chag, you don't discuss spiderman 3 with Alex...oh wait, there's some humor. Shit.), hell my mom was beaten brutally on a regular basis until her mother killed herself. A lot just as horribly as you described. And most of them? Wouldn't freak out about it. I've never meet anyone who has freaked out about it (And yes, I know people who have had moments where they'd rather die then face it, thanks muchly, and I've had some of my owns form my own personal traumas, but way to assume you are the only one who's gone through shitty crap) I don't have to walk on egg shells around them to stay their friends. And I wouldn't, so, like I said, better in the end. I don't really want to be around people who overreact without even talking to me about things and saying "hey that's not cool with me. Don't discuss it around me."
Oh, and pointing the finger at me as the troll? Also, super childish AND illogical. The troll(s) have hit people I don't even KNOW and talked about things I wasn't around for. You know for a fact I don't even know what was SAID in all the troll posts, and to have done what would included to a) Research enough to troll that deeply (I barely read the threads of rp's I'm in that are current I'm not gonna back research about shit I don't care about just to complain) and b) Keep up an act that it's not me, would be far more effort then I'd put negatively into any rp. I'd rather you know...quit wasting my time and go to one of the other 80 billion rps on the internet. Everyone on the internet who can write in paragraphs isn't the same person, or else this planet would be markedly less populated, and IMing you non-anonmouse to try to discuss something isn't the same as trolling anonymously. (Also, disagreeing with you=/=flaming you, but I doubt I'll get that one across any time soon)
"This person I know intimately has the same opinion and you just insulted the shit outta them by devaluing their abuse and making them cry." is not the same as "saying my opinion is ok because someone I know went through this." She was there and woulda told you to your face, but was not friended on the post.
I didn't say you weren't right to be offended, and I never said it was for the "lulz". It's not a funny subject no matter how serious or not serious it is, though yeah, I crack jokes. One would hope you would know me well enough by now to know this. But I suppose they're only ok if they're bashing someone/something you dislike. But I apologize, obviously you are so fucking right, and anyone with another opinion is a worthless person. You're the one who said "You haven't been there, so you have no valid opinion." (Without, I might add, knowing whether I had in fact been there or not) So since the only people with valid opinion are those who have been there, Bev responded. As she has in fact been through BOTH variations of what I was talking about, in real life, not through the movies, and has seen both plenty of goreporn and plenty of shota. And, in fact, due to her job training, actual child porn (When you go though training at APS you see heavily blurred shit as part of their anti-child porn training. She was disturbed as fuck even with is so blurred)
You didn't choose to respond to the paragraph upon paragrah of well thought out response, no, you honed in on my opinion that glorified fictional goreporn is worse then glorified fictional childporn (Well, might I add, I was very clear that both were pretty damn horrid) and said since I'd never been abused of course I'd think that. Do I object to you thinking those are flipped? Not at all. We all draw our personal lines. I do object to being denied an opinion because I "haven't been there". And I do love how you ignore the person who HAS been there.
And real cool to delete someone over
If you'd just, you know, said "Hey. That wasn't funny, I'm really not comfortable with this kinda stuff." I would have probably coddled the shit out of you and felt way guilty, and made sure that I never brought it up around you again because you're not comfortable with it. Instead you through fits and tossed away a friendship over it.
I have tons of friends who have been abused (meaning I know where to respect boundaries. You don't discuss drugs with chag, you don't discuss spiderman 3 with Alex...oh wait, there's some humor. Shit.), hell my mom was beaten brutally on a regular basis until her mother killed herself. A lot just as horribly as you described. And most of them? Wouldn't freak out about it. I've never meet anyone who has freaked out about it (And yes, I know people who have had moments where they'd rather die then face it, thanks muchly, and I've had some of my owns form my own personal traumas, but way to assume you are the only one who's gone through shitty crap) I don't have to walk on egg shells around them to stay their friends. And I wouldn't, so, like I said, better in the end. I don't really want to be around people who overreact without even talking to me about things and saying "hey that's not cool with me. Don't discuss it around me."
Oh, and pointing the finger at me as the troll? Also, super childish AND illogical. The troll(s) have hit people I don't even KNOW and talked about things I wasn't around for. You know for a fact I don't even know what was SAID in all the troll posts, and to have done what would included to a) Research enough to troll that deeply (I barely read the threads of rp's I'm in that are current I'm not gonna back research about shit I don't care about just to complain) and b) Keep up an act that it's not me, would be far more effort then I'd put negatively into any rp. I'd rather you know...quit wasting my time and go to one of the other 80 billion rps on the internet. Everyone on the internet who can write in paragraphs isn't the same person, or else this planet would be markedly less populated, and IMing you non-anonmouse to try to discuss something isn't the same as trolling anonymously. (Also, disagreeing with you=/=flaming you, but I doubt I'll get that one across any time soon)
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P.S; Prymiad head icon = win.
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But to be upset I said something she didn't like in another person's journal to the point where she simple defriends me without talking to me, and leaves snark comment about it in her journal? Not cool.