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Terra ([personal profile] penguinfaery) wrote2009-05-30 10:14 am

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Sometimes I lose my faith in humanity

Stupid kid doing stupid shit does not deserve to be executed. Guy was totally right to shot him till he was no longer a problem (And if he'd died in that instance, so be it) but you can't tell me someone with his experience didn't know the kid was fucking neutralized from a shot to the head.

Gimme a fucking break.

[identity profile] donotttrust.livejournal.com 2009-05-30 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I know that these things are illegal. When I said "allowed", I meant the person can commit these acts, and your retaliatory responses are limited. If you were to accidentally go overboard, suddenly you are the one who will be receiving a harsher punishment than the criminal would have for breaking and entering.

This is where the system is flawed. Defense responses (not in the above cited article) sometimes aren't slow and measured. Sometimes it is instinctual, and next thing you know your attacker is dead. And now you have opened yourself up to the Justice System.

Your comment that this was petty larceny is incorrect. Because the criminal was armed, that automatically jumps the severity of the crime and its punishments. Also, he had an accomplice.

In Arizona, he would be charged with Armed Robbery (Class 2 Felony) and Aggravated Robbery (Class 3 Felony). A Class 2 felony is punishable by 5 years in prison.

To illustrate the seriousness of this crime...the only thing higher than this would have been murder. So yes, the criminal committed a very grievous act upon the victim and the state, according the laws of Arizona at least. Was his punishment justified according the law? No. Was his punishment justified according to the man who's life he endangered? Yes.

I tend to agree with the man, and not the law on this one.

[identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com 2009-05-30 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
See though, if he'd lost it and shot the guy, say, 6 times off hand because he got freaked out or something, I'd totally agree with you 100%. But to get the situation underhand, know that you are, in general, safe...AND THEN go back, get another gun, and shot someone unconscious and unarmed (the gun went with the kid he chased out) 5 more times...yeah. I agree he should be punished. And I do think going for 1st degree murder is over the top.

And I do think there's should be an allowance for a difference between someone inexperienced freaking out and going overboard, and someone measuredly taking someone out, just like there's a difference between premeditated, murder, and a crime of passion.
Edited 2009-05-30 19:37 (UTC)