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Terra ([personal profile] penguinfaery) wrote2010-03-15 03:46 pm
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http://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc

*geekgasm*

Academic papers on Supernatural.

Academic fan related stuff is a secret crack addiction of mine. This+Mechadamia=me locked up for weeks.

...except I totally need to be getting food, and cleaning, and working on homework. And not sitting around reading essays on Supernatural Mpreg.

This cracked me up though:

I'm intrigued by the larger questions our show raises if there's a hell, does that mean there's a heaven? I wrote an episode in which people kill after being visited by something that may or may not be an angel. That, of course, raises lots of questions no one can answer. And it was important to hold onto that ambiguity to keep the world of the show from spiraling out into Judeo-Christian-land, and also because in life we don't ever get definitive answers to questions of faith. Keeping all that going for a whole episode was trickier than I anticipated. When we were working on it, we would put on that Voice Over Guy voice and go, "This week on Supernatural: hot zombie chicks. And next week, Sam and Dean ponder the age-old question, 'Is there a God?'" It was heavy.

It would be interesting to see an interview NOW. As they sure went there.

[identity profile] ryosato.livejournal.com 2010-03-15 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
And it was important to hold onto that ambiguity to keep the world of the show from spiraling out into Judeo-Christian-land

D: I know you don't really agree, but... fuck I wish they'd stuck with that idea. -_- I'm just so tiiiiiiiired of the same, boring Christian mythology in EVERYTHING (especially when this is exactly like Hellblazer, so it's not even a new twist or anything. XD)

[identity profile] ryosato.livejournal.com 2010-03-15 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, you went into the show knowing what it was gonna become. I'm sure if I had known it was going to do this I... well, honestly I never would have watched it. XD I have issues with Christianity. There's seriously nothing interesting or new or special about any of it to me. I mean, I was raised Catholic. So if I'd known it was going to be a Christian show I never would have bothered. :\ Just 'cause... it doesn't hold my interest, I guess. (Again, I still like it in some things, like Hellblazer is obviously awesome, and I'll watch horror movies - but a TV show is much more of an investment in time than comics and movies.)

I would completely disagree that Christianity is an American mythology. It is a mythology ACCEPTED here and BELIEVED here... but there is nothing American about it. Especially since, as always, SPN is based on Catholicism. Catholicism is European. It's run from ROME. It's not American. It's just something that we have here. I was SO happy to see a show for ONCE that was based on uniquely American mythology - the urban legend - so that's a big part of my bummed-out-ness.

I guess I just think they didn't need to EVER bring up the 'big questions'. Did we NEED to find out more about angels? Really? Did we NEED those things answered? Why do they have to be fighting THE DEVIL and trying to find THE GOD? Why can't they just be fighting A DEMON? Like Yellow Eyes, that was a cool character, that was interesting. Why does EVERYTHING have to be as big of a picture as possible? x.x

But really, my biggest issue with SPN is that I mostly watched it because the first 2 seasons were SO MUCH about the fucked up Winchesters and the issues the boys have and THEIR relationship. The show stopped being about that a long time ago. I mean yeah it's THERE, but that isn't the focus anymore. So... yeah.

I'm just whiny. I can see why some people would like it. They just took a show that shocked and amazed me at how fun and unique it was and how well they incorporated AMERICAN mythology for once, and how they addressed the fucked up family unit... and now it's just another show about these characters who are OH SO SPECIAL and CHOSEN and have to fight THE DEVIL HIMSELF. It's just... a very, very, VERY different show than it started out as.

[identity profile] krakensoup.livejournal.com 2010-03-15 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel that as many times as I have tried to dissect the philosophies behind a show or movie with someone, they generally are not up for it.