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Terra ([personal profile] penguinfaery) wrote2008-05-16 02:32 pm
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GAH.

Ok, so maybe a fandom I am so-so on and a couple I don't care about isn't the best place to pick this fight, but OMG THIS STUPID HURTS

Argh. Uke/Seme=Bad, mmmmkay?

Anyway, I'd like to thank everyone who replies to me waaaah emo post about computers. I'll try to get to everyone one by one, but commenting on this computer is really hard (Reading on this computer is really hard. I've made an ass outta myself more then once on IM)

But thank you they helped a lot.

Also, Naruto 400 made me such emosauce.

My computer should be back soonish. Shell, the sophie app will be my first priority when I get it. I'm so sorry it's taken so long.

[identity profile] tanni-inosento.livejournal.com 2008-05-16 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
it makes me writh and twich. that stupid does hurt especially the "well gay sex has nothing to do with yaoi :D~!"

[identity profile] torowa.livejournal.com 2008-05-16 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Except for the part were you know.
It's two GAY MEN.

That makes my brain hurt lol.

[identity profile] tanni-inosento.livejournal.com 2008-05-16 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
It makes me disgusted with the human race.

[identity profile] iwanttobeasleep.livejournal.com 2008-05-16 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I want to beat someone over the head whenever I hear "Yaoi isn't supposed to be like real gay people, so it's okay!" Because, yeah, some people make that distinction and enjoy it as a kink in the same way I can enjoy a slavery kink while knowing it is wrong in every way. . .But a lot of people DON'T make that distinction and assuming that gay relationships do work that way.

Also, it's a really sexist distinction to make (why is the girl the one who is weak, cries all the time, and really dependent on the man?), and really heteronormative. Real straight relationships rarely work that way, so fucking shut the fuck up and write characters that are individuals, not sex roles.

[identity profile] iwanttobeasleep.livejournal.com 2008-05-16 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Goddamnit I hate being redundant.

[identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com 2008-05-16 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I think a lot of the issue is, like you said, a kink is ok, but a lot of people AREN'T using uke/seme as a KINK.

Plus, like my comment said, it bothered me they aren't talking ABOUT yaoi, they're just talking about two characters they like gay together. UGH.

[identity profile] iwanttobeasleep.livejournal.com 2008-05-16 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. It's like any kink, it's okay so long as you realize it's a kink (and are safe, sane, and consensual when you exercise it), and why it's wrong in RL. . .But people who realize it's wrong don't go around saying "Yaoi isn't like RL!" Or at least they don't do it like that.

I did not read to your comment. . .I fled the stupid. But yes, that also. Yaoi is different than simple slash.

[identity profile] iwanttobeasleep.livejournal.com 2008-05-16 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
PS have you heard about this?

[identity profile] xtirpate.livejournal.com 2008-05-17 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck. Namine is probably one of the stupidist cocks I've ever had the displeasure of seeing around.

YAOI is sex without a point. That's what the term means. It does not mean "fluffy retardedness" and it does not mean "gay relationship." It also doesn't mean "making your characters do unrealistic shit."

It means sex without a point. YAOI is just the sex. JUST. THE. SEX. Nothing else.

In more important news, 400 didn't shock me. Sasuke's going to loose it though. And it will be glorious.

[identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com 2008-05-17 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, I'm even willing to give em the "Yaoi is something specific with specific trapping" because Most yaoi fanbrats are too dumb to research thingsit's commonly excepted, but shipping two guys together=/=yaoi.

I wish slash would be come a more accepted term in anime fandom so that line was easier to draw between "This unrealistic genre for horny japanese woman" and "making two character gay together".

Yeah, I'm...like I went back to reread the flashback to see if maybe it was my own bias of already HAVING that theory that made me read into it, and the whole "something is going on, but you only have the view point of a biased 6 year old who grew up to be a biased adult and never sought out any information that didn't fit what he wanted to know." is SO OBVIOUS. but yeah, that face at the end was the face of impending mental break down.,

And I can not WAIT.

[identity profile] xtirpate.livejournal.com 2008-05-17 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly. Shipping two guys together does not equal YAOI.

Yaoi just kind of became the popular term for "gay". Which, it is "gay". Its Gay sex. Which is something that DOES happen in the gay community. So, in some very vague sense it DOES have its tie ins with RL sex. Sense YAOI is sex, and sex is sex.

But its not a relationship. Its sex. And everyone kind of accepts YAOI as "gay" now. As if YAOI is how the Japanese say "homosexual" or something.

I'm pretty excited. Its nice to see some theories I've had come to reality and be solidified as accurate.

[identity profile] tanni-inosento.livejournal.com 2008-05-18 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I already said he was going batshit insane after finding out that he killed the only person that actually cared about him.